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Just sneaking a couple of longies watching the cricket

This is a tough beer to rate. It was the first one I brewed that I went "I can make beer". I might even wait until I get to the keg...or...and dare I say it...yep, til I get the hops right...like I have with the one I kegged a fortnight back. At best, I will give this a 4 out of 5 as there is better brews out there and I bought this as it said this was the one that replicated Crownies. It isn't Crown as it is more fruity than malty but yeah, the more I wanted to bag this...and granted it has come after an Aztec, it is sitting pretty nicely.

It isn't a Belgian Lager, or a Bohemian, or a Lawn Mower or a Birra but still, is a nice brew. I think a bit more bitterness in it will turn out quite well

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9 hours ago, Rob Courtney said:

Will point out this is 10 ish weeks into secondary so it has had some good time sitting

I think that could be the go with this one. Looking at the recipe with 750g of the X1 malt it should be more dominant by then.

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Think I may get to the stage ( given I have a flo and 16 kegs and it works for me) of doing a lot of my brew into kegs and then having maybe 20-25% done into bottles. So I may do three brews into kegs and then do a US Chiller into bottles. I mean I like them out of bottles and it has it's place but there is the aesthetics of pouring your own pints ( which was one of the reasons I wanted this system) and I think the flavour is possibly just better. 

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Absolutely delicious, creamy head ( pro tip, don't type that phrase into google with your parents in law in the house), really happy with this. Not quite Crownie, not quite Hahn Premium but kinda a mix of them.

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24 minutes ago, Rob Courtney said:

Think I may get to the stage ( given I have a flo and 16 kegs and it works for me) of doing a lot of my brew into kegs and then having maybe 20-25% done into bottles. So I may do three brews into kegs and then do a US Chiller into bottles. I mean I like them out of bottles and it has it's place but there is the aesthetics of pouring your own pints ( which was one of the reasons I wanted this system) and I think the flavour is possibly just better. 

I’d say that would be the way to go. I believe the stouts are better bottled and agree in something like the US Chiller so you can just come in and grab an ice cold bottle after work or some activity. ( no not that activity).

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3 minutes ago, Barrelboy said:

I’d say that would be the way to go. I believe the stouts are better bottled and agree in something like the US Chiller so you can just come in and grab an ice cold bottle after work or some activity. ( no not that activity).

 

Yeah, something like a chiller may be undersold in the bottle to be honest...I will keg it one day and think "damn" but it is a very cheap way to bottle 15 long necks which may be the way to go during summer when you come home on a hot day and think "yep, some beers tonight will be the way to go". Though during summer when I hit that 16 keg target*, it may be worthwhile keeping kegs in the flo all week. I mean in a perfect world I would be doing kegs the way you do but I bought what I did and it works perfectly well, maybe not portable but I can live with that.

 

*can see me buying 4 more kegs when that happens :)

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With the extra 4 that’ll give 100 litres, a good stock and allows time for maturity purposes. To be honest I’d definitely have gone the beerflo way if it all this was about when I changed from bottles to kegs ( an expensive way to go). However my kegs and system works well and I’m happy to stay with what I have. 

Stay with your system and just build up your keg stocks........more more more.🍻

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36 minutes ago, Barrelboy said:

With the extra 4 that’ll give 100 litres, a good stock and allows time for maturity purposes. To be honest I’d definitely have gone the beerflo way if it all this was about when I changed from bottles to kegs ( an expensive way to go). However my kegs and system works well and I’m happy to stay with what I have. 

Stay with your system and just build up your keg stocks........more more more.🍻

 

Oh yeah, like I don't feel like I am "stuck" with my system, it works well. I have read so many complaints about the flo and I just think " not here, works a treat". It has it's disadvantages but for me, it is worth it

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12 hours ago, Rob Courtney said:

From the first pint til the last, this has been a very good keg of beer, bit more hops would have been sweet but yeah, 13 pints of deliciousness 

It would certainly appears that you enjoyed this brew but mentioned (as an aside) that “more hops would have been sweet.....”. I suspect you added at kegging time so next time try at fermentation end and leave for the two days in keg mode. Or would you add another sachet of the H4? Or just leave it and do what you did again?

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When I get to EOF, I actually let my kegs sit at ready to keg for a couple of days, then let them go to storage for 3-4 days so that they can produce a clearer beer by flocculating the yeast. What I was doing was putting the hops in before it went into storage which with a liquid hops tends to give it too long before kegging...a couple of days would be far better than what I was doing. After chatting with Liam what I am now doing is the same method but putting the hops in when I kick it back out of storage, then giving it a day or so at kegging temp, which on my quick amount of research has shown to be getting the more hops flavour I was looking for.

I reckon I am a good 3 or so months away from tasting beers to know whether I want to do something along the lines of a tea to boost the bitterness but yeah, I'll cross that bridge when I get to it and hopefully have a bit of a better idea of what I am looking for.

What I will say though is the consistency of the head on the beer was just spot on from first pour to the last but what you saw in my picture ( albeit with a swig already out of it, so the beer wasn't to the top as it was poured) is exactly what I got every pint. I have found previously that the last pint or two have had a reduced head but the consistency on this brew was just perfect 

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I didn’t know you went to storage mode so Liam’s advice is correct. As you have chilled the beer thus cleaning up and settling yeast etc and ceasing any fermentation, if using liquid hop I wouldn’t bother waiting a couple of days at fermentation temperature. Just add to the kegs or if half and half add to the keg, fill, add to remaining 5 litres and then bottle. Reason, no difference in result whether the hops sit in the droid or in your keg due to the chilling process.

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Just tapping into a keg of this one, two pints in, watching the cricket and somehow a whole bag of chips is gone. Truly hope the missus didn't want any of them.

 

Once again, nice everyday brew

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So, I kegged this on the 26th and went out of my way to f$%k it up. Decided to do it in 2 kegs and the second keg I hadn't screwed the cap on properly, which meant it leaked as it was being poured from the droid. Given I couldn't leave it like that, I made the somewhat crazy decision to pour the keg back into the droid, put the cap back on the bag properly and re pour it.

With all that, I noticed on Wednesday that some moisture got between the bag and keg, causing the keg to become clear ( though it was behind another keg). I thought "bugger it" and put it i the droid expecting after all I did to ruin it, it would be ruined. If that wasn't bad enough, I put the wrong hops in it substituting Hallertau when it was meant to be Hesbrucker 

Not bad just quietly. 

 

Brewprints are indestructible 

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It has that sort of German beer taste mixed into it. I guess what I am most pleased about is recognising the difference just the change of hops makes to the beer. I had a chat with Liam a while back and he was telling me the real fun comes from the experimenting of different yeast and hops on the same beer and damn it, he is right.  I'm not 100% sure I'd make this exactly the same again but if you gave a mate one of these with "it's my homebrew", they'd come back for a second.

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6 hours ago, Rob Courtney said:

It has that sort of German beer taste mixed into it. I guess what I am most pleased about is recognising the difference just the change of hops makes to the beer. I had a chat with Liam a while back and he was telling me the real fun comes from the experimenting of different yeast and hops on the same beer and damn it, he is right.  I'm not 100% sure I'd make this exactly the same again but if you gave a mate one of these with "it's my homebrew", they'd come back for a second.

No doubt some excellent beers have been achieved through mistakes and experimentations. I do like to play around with hops and surprising changes can be achieved. A good example is the Coopers Session Ale, Brewprint - Galaxy hops, can Coopers recipe is galaxy and Melba hops, then there is Amarillo so mixing up is interesting with any harm.

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OK, so drinking the keg that I didn't bollocks up whilst kegging, I mean I did everything ele wrong, just kegged it like a pro. Close enough to 11 weeks secondary...and I have something to say...

 

I rate it better with Hallertau hops!!!

 

It hasn't lost its hops flavour and moulded into the same beer, it tastes bloody lovely, still think it has the "German beer" than say a Crownie but this would be the first time I would give this beer 5 stars. I will also note that this was the last beer I put dextrose powder in ( have used carb drops since then as an expiriment) bu I used 33 ish grams instead of the suggested 25-30gms and I think that may be the right amount. I do use a wheat dextrose for some reason, maybe the Brewshop guy reommended it.

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1 hour ago, Rob Courtney said:

OK, so drinking the keg that I didn't bollocks up whilst kegging, I mean I did everything ele wrong, just kegged it like a pro. Close enough to 11 weeks secondary...and I have something to say...

 

I rate it better with Hallertau hops!!!

 

It hasn't lost its hops flavour and moulded into the same beer, it tastes bloody lovely, still think it has the "German beer" than say a Crownie but this would be the first time I would give this beer 5 stars. I will also note that this was the last beer I put dextrose powder in ( have used carb drops since then as an expiriment) bu I used 33 ish grams instead of the suggested 25-30gms and I think that may be the right amount. I do use a wheat dextrose for some reason, maybe the Brewshop guy reommended it.

The hallertau hops I suspect would suit your brew, it’s a nice hop suitable with a number of European beers as well.

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