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Droid cleanse or commercial sanitiser ?

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Hey Guys , just want you opinion on sanitisers. I am still using droid tablets atm but the cost seems high . Should I lool at something like Starsan ? 

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I've been using both but once I run out of Droid Cleanse I will stick to Starsan.

Also it's so ridiculously cheap - only using 0.75ml per 500ml distilled water in a spray bottle.  I bought a 236ml bottle for $15.95 so at this rate should last me about 314 brews lol.

Am still wrapping my head around not 'fearing the foam' as it's a no-rinse sanitiser but that will still take some time for me I think.

I'm sure the other gents can provide further details on it.

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Starsan is definitely the go for sanitising. It’s cheap, reusable many time and has absolutely no adverse effects on the beers.

However, remember it is a sanitiser not a cleaner and sanitises the surface only. Therefore if you leave crap and just sanitise over it, if the crap dissolves or opens up so to speak then you have a potential for infection.

Because the surface of the droid interior is like a non stick frying pan I’ve found that cleaning straight away with water and and a chux cloth works well. Ensure you push the chux up the tap and bung spouts and flush out with water.

When I do need to clean I use pure sodium Percarbonate (main ingredient in nappy san). It breaks down, is harmless but needs to be rinsed. Look up on the net.

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I clean my droid out as soon as it's emptied into kegs , I generally just use clean water and a chux no detergents at this stage , but flush it with loads of hot water. Starsan sounds like the way to go. The tablets just seem to be an expensive way to go, plus they leave sediment at the bottom, I know it's also harmless but still I end up flushing again with water lol

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7 hours ago, Paul84 said:

I clean my droid out as soon as it's emptied into kegs , I generally just use clean water and a chux no detergents at this stage , but flush it with loads of hot water. Starsan sounds like the way to go. The tablets just seem to be an expensive way to go, plus they leave sediment at the bottom, I know it's also harmless but still I end up flushing again with water lol

No shot at Brewart but the tablets for sanitising means 10l plus of water and the time recommended. Whereas with starsan in a spray bottle it’s done. A few minutes to allow exceed to drain and off you go.

A keg/bottle - clean - sanitise - new brew off and running = under an hour or not much over depending on your set up.

The interesting thing is if you flush out your sanitiser with water then the sanitation is only as good as the water used.

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3 hours ago, Barrelboy said:

No shot at Brewart but the tablets for sanitising means 10l plus of water and the time recommended. Whereas with starsan in a spray bottle it’s done. A few minutes to allow exceed to drain and off you go.

A keg/bottle - clean - sanitise - new brew off and running = under an hour or not much over depending on your set up.

The interesting thing is if you flush out your sanitiser with water then the sanitation is only as good as the water used.

 Yeah this is also a plus for the Starsan because the 2 hours I have to wait to put a new brew in is a bit long. And yeah only as good as the water I am using . But its the same water I using to make beer with lol.

Looks like I am shopping online today lol 

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Ha ha “But its the same water I using to make beer with..” yeh but it kinda don’t work like that. 🤭

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I do understand but its literally a litre of water that flushes through before i brew. Would like to think any left over bacteria or yeast has been killed off by then. And if the water is compromised it will be in the brew anyway. But eitherways , would like to get better at sanitising and using a different one . For cost and ease really 

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2 minutes ago, Paul84 said:

I do understand but its literally a litre of water that flushes through before i brew. Would like to think any left over bacteria or yeast has been killed off by then. And if the water is compromised it will be in the brew anyway. But eitherways , would like to get better at sanitising and using a different one . For cost and ease really 

I understand your logic but there is a reason why they manufacture non rinse sanitiser. When rinsing with water even if left for a short time, as it is a surface covering, it is open quickly to bacteria. However volume water is not so vulnerable (like your rain water tank, in a way) and then is protected by fermentation co2 and alcohol.

Hope this explains it in a rough way.

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Well i know with the starsan i wont rinse out as i kmow its good. The chalky residue of the droid tablet always looked a little worse. Ill leave it from now on anyways 🙂 . Cheers for the info

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28 minutes ago, Paul84 said:

Well i know with the starsan i wont rinse out as i kmow its good. The chalky residue of the droid tablet always looked a little worse. Ill leave it from now on anyways 🙂 . Cheers for the info

No sir, with those Brewprint tablets you have to lightly rinse out. But you then need to use the droid straight away, add 10l etc.

Cheers Mark

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